Thx for that.
I knew someone was going to say things like that...
Let's take a look at quicksand. Quicksand is pretty viscous as well... though nowhere near as viscous as magma, if you wish.
I could go nitpicking about the injection of a needle in quicksand, or even the fall of a drop of water in an ocean...
But this is not about such things.
In air, we use aerodynamic forms for aeroplanes and rockets.
In water, we use hydrodynamic forms for submarines. Even though the shape of modern submarines is still miles away from being 99% hydrodynamic, we ARE working on it.
In magma, we could use magmadynamic things? Nope. Magma behaves like a liquid in all circumstances, so hydrodynamic forms and shapes would be fine for a magmatic vehicle. The resistance would be very small for a vehicle of such shape... it would require not much power for a propulsion device to propel it through the magma. Take for example the hydromagnetic propulsion system known as "caterpillar" that uses the magnetic abilities of water to create some sort of marine jet engine... isn't the magnetic ability of hot magma much greater than this mere water? Could we not use the caterpillar friction drive unit for our LITTLE vehicle?
Current calculations on magma movement and the effects of internal movement are a little more refined as: Push a brick in a bathtub and the waterlevel rises. Aristotle would be satisfied with such calculations, but we are not.
You say "if you move that stuff around too vigourously it could have adverse effects in the earths surface". Yes, you're right. IF we were talking about injecting an object the size of 10 cubic kilometer, it would definitely affect the surface, and it would matter for our vehicle's journey. Since our vehicle cannot be 1 cubic kilometer in size, but is huge enough with a size of 125.000 cubic meters (100*50*25 in rectangular shape, because the calculation of a hydrodynamic shape would be too complex to make here) which equals 0.000125 cubic kilometer, there would be no significant movement in the magma surrounding our vehicle, so no go for the tectonic problem.
Secondly, this entire discussion about the influence on the magma and the velocity of magma is irrelevant, since IF we have created a vehicle with an independent life support system, WHY would we not travel at a little above magma velocity if necessary? I know, it'll take a lot of time before we reach our desired level of depth, but we'll get there (at least the children of the children of ... of our children) in time. We do have time aplenty, don't we? No threats lurk deep inside the earth as far as we know... There is no life in the void, nor in the mantle of the earth. Our pod will be safe forever.
Because we cannot stand the idea we might be degenerate descendants of a superior human breed long forgotten?
Because WE are the SUPERIOR ones??
Because History, repeating itself, only improves us over time?
Because evolutionism does not support the degeneration of a species?
1. The degeneration of man is proven in the assimilation of degenerates among humans in present day society. I am not preaching the cleansing of the human genepool as some think, but I am stating the fact that humanity is weakening itself by willingly accepting weaker genes in their genome. Now don't go around slaughtering weaker humans, because I told you to, right? I DID NOT. Let's have that clear. My ideas may have roots in semi nationalsocialist ideas, but this makes not that my entire reasoning is nazistic and as such disgusting, does it?
I am not calling for a genecleansing, I merely await the next Ragnarok or Apocalypse.
2. SUPERIOR? Even more "ha". Humans have, with all their technological advances, dulled their 7 senses. We cannot comprehend anything unless some extremely powerful stimulus hits their senses. Isn't it obvious? All animals have things in which they excel. Humans have the hatred of nature as their strength. Their idea of superiority is blinding their perception, and yet it makes them strong... for without reservation humanity destroys genetic information (stored in the animals humans murder) with which mankind could enhance itself. If only there was one man realising the effects of this foolish thought pattern... But there is none.
3. Three words: The Dark Ages.
Can mankind not be in such a transitional phase?
Maybe indeed are humans being improved. But only through degeneration can there be advance.
Can you replace a computer's processor without taking it out first?
4. Degeneration flows from the non-evolutionistic ways of present day Man. They accept and even encourage the assimilation and implementation of flawed genes in their own and then start wailing that so many people die of god-knows-what disease. This is only a logical consequence of keeping genes that cause immunological failures... is it not?
Enhance those genes. Find out who carries the faulty genome and repair their children's before they are even inseminated.
Genetic enhancement? No, says mankind. Genetic repairs? Yes, I shout.
Assuming that this 'scarper' means leaving this earth or at least it's surface... Does THIS earth give us any reason to leave? Yes, it sure does, overpopulation, famine, you name it.
You have a good point there, I must admit. I cannot argue with it.
I will however seek out arguments against it, for I do believe there is something wrong with it. Besides, I cannot just surrender to human reasoning... without exceeding the rules and sharing knowledge with you none of you could ever comprehend.
You are giving a good argument. I like this. You think further and more serious than most humans I know... but still you are stuck in the thought pattern set for you, biologically.
Exceed that and you may yet find wisdom beyond comprehension.
I realise I sound very radical at times.
I am not intending to overthrow all human ideas of reality and psychology though.
At times I may sound a little bit out of reality, by using the term 'humans' instead of 'us'/'we'. I realise this. I am using the terminology on purpose, since we must realise that humans are not the superior species we think ourselves. What does our beloved mr. Spock say?
"It is typical human arrogance to believe that any message sent would be meant for them. There are and were more sentient species on Earth."
I'll end this post here... but I will keep responding to all your comments... ;)
With the greatest respect,